I don't know. Metaphysics isn't my area. But people would say things like that about Eureka - that she wasn't human because she doesn't feel things like a human. When everything is said and done, people might even say those things about me.
I do think Bridger brought one of my dolls to life. I don't remember much about it, only that it seemed to share all of my desires and plans. It helped me carry off a hit.
No one doubts you have a will of your own, thus a soul. And I suppose it isn't about feeling as one would expect, but feeling at all. Too often people view differences as an affront.
Did they? Well, then they would surpass Creation magic for we could never imbue items with a soul. Not that we would want to.
[laughs] Don't be so sure about that. The first thing everyone will say is that I was brainwashed into a killing machine by my ba'pas, trust me.
[But that's beside the point,]
My world has a similar principal. It's illegal to make artificial intelligence that are, well, too intelligent. But then you have people like Eureka being called computers, and Gordian working on mapping the human mind so a personality can be re-created using data. Eventually, the distinction will collapse.
Souls can get to close to complex constructs, but after reading tales here they are more like ghosts. Thrashing about blindly with the intent only to harm.
It wasn't pleasant. Though ever was it the job of the office of Emet-Selch to help in such affairs. Or perhaps that was simply one of my dearest friends looking for an excuse to spend time together.
It becomes synonymous with our names once we take office.
I would say the occasion was more rare than not. Usually the fault was a Creation or experiment simply being too close or a portion of soul being too restless.
A soul in such a manner will simply thrash about wildly. Returning to the lifestream will cleanse it, calm it, to be reborn again. Though as with any new life it is bereft of memories.
I was, but I don't remember much of my command yet. My sibling Ockham has been O. S since we killed our ba'pas, but the title passed to me after everything got out to the public. Someone had to go stand trial, and I'm the one with all the followers, so Ockham got arrested and I went to ground.
[Some melancholy creeps into their tone as they explain. But they glance at Emet-Selchm shaking off their melancholy with curiosity.]
What about criminals? Or is there really no crime at all, ever?
I'm sorry to hear that. By your tone you seemed close.
There were crimes, but not so severe that remediation could not be put into place. To truly kill one of us take no small amount of effort considering our aetheric presence. Honestly, injuries were more common with Creations gone awry than purposeful thought.
No. [Cardinal's focus grows distant for a moment.] We competed for O.S when we were younger. There's no one I'm closer to.
So you could do the worse thing anyone could think of and and still come back. I see why you were surprised. Isn't that strange for everyone else? Would everyone know?
It's complicated; I'm still missing pieces. When we were younger, I did hate Ockham. They were always twice my size and I had to work five times harder to beat them. But later... I wanted them to be O.S.
[Pokes him idly.] You didn't answer; does everyone know, when you come back? That you had to be reborn.
You thought he could do a better job? Or did you believe your skills more useful elsewhere?
[He sighs at the poking not put out at all.]
Not necessarily. I suppose if one's disappearance was noted during the destruction of one vessel to the creation of the next. If that is what you are asking. There is no way to tell how many vessels one has shed.
Ockham wouldn't be O.S if they weren't the better candidate. [Firmly.] So it was some of both, and I think we both mellowed out after the bash' adopted Lesley—The orphan from the Juniper hit. [The one they had played to demonstrate O.S's abstract influence.]
[Hums thoughtfully.] It's hard to believe no-one would be keeping an eye on someone like that. But it sounds nice.
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I don't know. Metaphysics isn't my area. But people would say things like that about Eureka - that she wasn't human because she doesn't feel things like a human. When everything is said and done, people might even say those things about me.
I do think Bridger brought one of my dolls to life. I don't remember much about it, only that it seemed to share all of my desires and plans. It helped me carry off a hit.
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Did they? Well, then they would surpass Creation magic for we could never imbue items with a soul. Not that we would want to.
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[But that's beside the point,]
My world has a similar principal. It's illegal to make artificial intelligence that are, well, too intelligent. But then you have people like Eureka being called computers, and Gordian working on mapping the human mind so a personality can be re-created using data. Eventually, the distinction will collapse.
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Ah, I suppose they can't distinguish not being able to see the souls themselves. Though it does make for a fascinating debate.
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Is there a way to 'get' a soul, without being born with one...? Like developing one.
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Though it is possible I suppose.
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So you dealt with them a lot? There wasn't any way to help them?
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I would say the occasion was more rare than not. Usually the fault was a Creation or experiment simply being too close or a portion of soul being too restless.
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And then what did you do?
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Only one option remains. Put the soul back to rest into the lifestream.
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I assume at that point it loses any sense of identity?
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A soul in such a manner will simply thrash about wildly. Returning to the lifestream will cleanse it, calm it, to be reborn again. Though as with any new life it is bereft of memories.
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[Some melancholy creeps into their tone as they explain. But they glance at Emet-Selchm shaking off their melancholy with curiosity.]
What about criminals? Or is there really no crime at all, ever?
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There were crimes, but not so severe that remediation could not be put into place. To truly kill one of us take no small amount of effort considering our aetheric presence. Honestly, injuries were more common with Creations gone awry than purposeful thought.
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And when you say 'kill', do you mean returning them to the lifestream, or destroying them?
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Returning to the lifestream. Though I suppose one could utterly destroy a soul.
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So you could do the worse thing anyone could think of and and still come back. I see why you were surprised. Isn't that strange for everyone else? Would everyone know?
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You have learned here that the mental effects are vastly more concerning than the physical ones.
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[Pokes him idly.] You didn't answer; does everyone know, when you come back? That you had to be reborn.
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[He sighs at the poking not put out at all.]
Not necessarily. I suppose if one's disappearance was noted during the destruction of one vessel to the creation of the next. If that is what you are asking. There is no way to tell how many vessels one has shed.
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[Hums thoughtfully.] It's hard to believe no-one would be keeping an eye on someone like that. But it sounds nice.
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They would. Curious lot that we are. And if they were a danger, we would need to determine why.
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I guess you could...? ["Why would you" is implied in the tone.] I don't think it's ever come up.
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